Well . . .
We saw the Gaia sign come down.
Then we saw the Doubletree signs go up.
Then, we drove past a few days ago, and the Doubletree signs all had shrouds over them.
New ownership? Changing brands/names? Going back to Gaia?
It still is listed as Gaia (as a separate website), and it's also listed as a Doubletree hotel on the doubletree site . . .
Anyone heard anything about the "shrouding"?
We'll post an update if we find out anything! :)
Napa Old World InnEdited: 11 April 2011, 15:54
very odd- the new sign says Gaia Napa Valley. Misnomer, since it's in Napa County and not Napa Valley. Anxious to see where they evolve :)
Hah-- we're going to be driving by there in an hour or so-- thanks for the update, Segway! :)
Napa Old World Inn
PS A property calling itself "Napa Valley" and not being in the Valley is nothing new-- there are hotels/motels in Sonoma county (in Santa Rosa) and Solano counties (Vallejo and Fairfield)-- some up to an HOUR'S DRIVE away from the Napa Valley-- who have named themselves "Napa Valley Somethingorother". Travelers need to google map the location to make sure it's actually INSIDE of the Napa Valley, and not just a name--d'oh!
Talk about buyer beware!!
Drove by, the signs were the same (big shrouds over both Doubletree signs).
The Gaia Napa Valley signs went up about the same time the Doubletree signs did-- but that's the only one left that is not shrouded.
We'll post an update if we hear anything.
Napa Old World Inn
"it's in Napa County and not Napa Valley"
Where do you folks think the Napa Valley begins? I ask this because I'm not sure there is a consensus. Just because the western hills give way to the sloughs of the Napa Delta doesn't mean that the Napa Valley has ended. Some could even argue that Vallejo is in the Napa Valley because that's where the Napa River empties into the bay.
If you go by the AVA description, all the grapes grown around American Canyon can be designated as Napa Valley fruit. Here's a map put out by the Vintner's Association that shows the Napa Valley appellation extending all the way to the county line in American Canyon.
A number of Napa wineries use fruit from this region in their Napa Valley wines so why shouldn't a business in American Canyon not consider themselves part of the Napa Valley?
You make some good points. The definition of "Napa Valley" has changed, over the years.
For many, the "Napa Valley" is the area defined (and protected) by the landmark Ag Preserve Ordinance. That ordinance defines the protected area as between Napa and Calistoga-- what many consider the Napa Valley.
You could certainly look at marine air flow and argue that Vallejo (in an entirely different county) is part of the "Napa Valley", but we've never heard anyone say this.
Yet we have seen many hotels in different counties-- some as much as an hour or more away-- bill themselves as "Napa Valley", to draw unsuspecting tourists.
We see their reports on these boards, every year-- they're staying in Rohnert Park, or Santa Rosa, or Fairfield-- all because they booked a "Napa Valley hotel" without checking the actual address.
The number of Napa appellations (ie, specific grape growing regions) continue to grow, spurred on, in part, by the enormous amount of money to be made by growing grapes in a recognized Napa appellation. We have no doubt that someday, Lake Berryessa will be recognized as a Napa Appellation as well-- even though most wine geeks today would have a hard time reconciling this.
All to say-- many locals still consider the protected area between the towns of Napa and Calistoga as "the Napa Valley".
We'd never expect everyone to agree about this, though. :)
And even if everyone *did* agree on an area, we're pretty sure advertising and wine dollars would still be spent to change or expand the definition.
And so it goes . . .
Napa Old World Inn
.Edited: 15 April 2011, 16:13
Oops-- we should have checked out your link-- it looks like the edge of Lake Berryessa is considered "Napa Valley Appellation" already!
I loved the Gaia Napa Valley hotel, it was one of the best hotels that was also green and was incredibly clean with great staff. Hope doubletree will keep it green & upscale and not turn it into a motel.Edited: 16 April 2011, 06:49
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